@aster "bed adhesion"?!?

I did not realise this was about 3D printing until in utter fascination I decided I had to (HAD TO) look at the thread. Now I'm not sure if I am disappointed or relieved.

@peemee Douglas Adams reckoned humans were invented by water as a means of transport... maybe water invented plants too?

@alilly it seems to me that the only really bad things in a language are behaviours that are unreasonable or overly surprising. Your JS complaint is a perfect example of both. I would argue that C (though not C++) is actually a highly predictable and very unsurprising language. It is true that it does little to protect you from yourself, but it also does not promise that. I'd be interested in a suitable example for C...

Off the top of my head I think the fact that an assignment in C has a value is surprising, but not unreasonable. The treatment of zero vs non-zero in a boolean context can lead to surprises if people forget that there is no actual boolean type, but again it's not unreasonable. Do you have other examples?

@alilly name a single language that does not have such a list...

Also, I'm assuming you don't mean general antipatterns, but specific syntactical constructs that are... inadvisable...

@pythonhub yeah - it's the proof that python has object orientedness bolted on in a half-arsed way, because self should not be required as an argument it should just Be There.

Trolling - a bit:-)

The real reason I hate python is that indentation is syntactically relevant. That is just plain stoopid :-)

@LilyVers isn't it odd that we say "out", when really someone who is "out" is finally "in"?

Happy monthiversary!

@luci well it is, sort of... parity means equal proportions of ratbags and fools, too. If you squint you could call it progress :-)

@rnlf I've been using Linux since 1993, and nothing BUT Linux since 1996. Never had a serious problem. Have noticed a gentle slide towards unreliability in the last five or six years though. Slight, but there. Nothing as bad as the shitshow that is Windows.

social grump 

@oya never explain, never complain. Easier in the long run.

@Quokka @mel it's not bad news. The bad new was the original theft. Whether the hacker now releases the data or not, it is already compromised. There will never be a way to know if any commitment to not release more is honoured or not, so it must all be regarded as already released. Optus would be stupid to pay them anything - better put the money towards remediation.

auspol 

@tatey presumably influence means bribe or blackmail. It would make no sense to ban cogent argument...

@mala another GMH fan! Some of his poems are some of my favourites.

Not Sir Mixalot though. Nope.

@LovesTha @izaya I buy brand new hardware and have not had a major problem yet. But I don't build systems - I buy laptops. I don't need high-end graphics either, so perhaps I am atypical. I've been using Linux since 1993, so I've been through a fair bit of hardware even so. It's certainly safer to buy old hardware, but just making sure you can return it if it doesn't work will see you right (mostly).

@cy yes. I am a devout believer in simple first. Premature optimisation is the root of all evil :-)

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@BathysphereHat yeah, what is the problem with "dead"? People seem to have a real aversion to ordinary, sensible words sometimes. We'll all be dead eventually; we all knew someone who's now dead. It's a natural part of the human condition, so why are some people apparently afraid to use the word?

@toastedwedge I got a degree in Philosophy and Germanic Linguistics, so *of course* I ended up in IT. A ZX80 was the first computer I touched unless you count handheld calculators. Atari400 was the first one I owned. My first HDD was 10MB (yes, MB) and cost thousands. Now I herd VMs in the cloud...

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