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I just managed to lose the entire morning creating a Google Doc. The lack of a save button was driving me nuts yesterday (first time I'd seen the application), but I've now got over that, and am finding it quite a reasonable tool for creating structured text that my client can see just by looking at it. (IE: I don't have to send it anywhere.)

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@grumpysmiffy it’s been raskinized. instead of a save button, it’s always “saved” , and has infinite undo. which is great from a ux perspective.

downside: google stores a log of every single change and keystroke the document has ever seen. google.

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@zensaiyuki Yes, that it's going through Google is always a concern. I've dumped them for all other services barring search and translate, and never logged in.

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@grumpysmiffy i’ve been looking for a nice alternative to google docs. they exist but they aren’t exactly “good”.

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@grumpysmiffy before google docs existed, there were these projects named Etherpad and Ethercalc. google essentially bought all the develipers of these projects, who then built google docs- from scratch. Etherpad and Ethercalc still exist and still seem to be getting maintained by someone. they do the same thing but aren’t as, well, polished i would say.

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@zensaiyuki @grumpysmiffy check out OnlyOffice or Collabora, pretty close competitors to Google Docs and integrates with Nextcloud. nextcloud.com/onlyoffice/

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